Senior editor Kelsey McKinnon, who met with Holmes for the interview, said that while the actress wasn’t bragging about her five-year marriage, she certainly didn’t seem to be standing at the edge of a precipice, either. “Going back over the tapes, there were signs: Holmes was certainly very aware of herself, laying a couple cards on the table but never showing her whole hand,” McKinnon wrote. “Most noticeably, the one name decisively absent from her lexicon: Tom Cruise. She never actually refers to him by name over pages and pages of transcription.” When McKinnon asked if having Suri brought the couple closer together, Holmes added, “I don’t know. I mean… I don’t know. People have been having babies a long time.”